Testing a Chinese x86 CPU: A Deep Dive into Zen-based Hygon Dhyana Processors
by Dr. Ian Cutress & Wendell Wilson on February 27, 2020 9:00 AM ESTBenchmarks: Windows
For both systems, we installed Windows: Windows 10 Pro on the small 8-core Dhyana system, and Windows 10 Enterprise on the big dual 32-core Dhyana Plus server. With AVX/AVX2 not working properly, our range of testing was limited. As mentioned previously, some software didn’t even want to run on one system or the other, such as CPU-Z on the server.
From the numbers we can see that our 8-core Dhyana processor falls somewhere between the 6-core Ryzen 5 1600X and the 8-core Ryzen 6 1800X, due to clock speeds, but on particular tests it gets hammered by even the Athlon 200GE. The dual 32-core Dhyana Plus server seems to be in all sorts of a mess, often beaten by the Ryzen 7 1800X, or can now be easily beaten by the Ryzen 9 3950X. The one benchmark where it did really well was Corona – a memory/NUMA agnostic integer based renderer – it seems like a match made in heaven.
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TheinsanegamerN - Friday, February 28, 2020 - link
No, the context changes based on speaker, target audience, and tone. The definition of the words does NOT change. Language is not that fluid.Claiming language means whatever you want it to mean is a common tactic imposed by those who would use your words against you at every possible opportunity to label you as a deragatory individual. Common vernacular does not change that rapidly.
s.yu - Sunday, March 1, 2020 - link
>Claiming language means whatever you want it to mean is a common tactic imposed by those who would use your words against you at every possible opportunity to label you as a deragatory individual.Well said.
I heard a similar saying before but I think this is better said.
peevee - Thursday, February 27, 2020 - link
"his article makes it pretty clear that they didn't give any Chinese company (or entity) the info they needed to start designing their own high-performance x86 cores in the future."It DOES NOT make it clear at all. They provided the license to MODIFY the design as they see fit.
Ian Cutress - Thursday, February 27, 2020 - link
Any requested modifications had to be pre-approved by AMD / AMD's side of HMC.FunBunny2 - Saturday, February 29, 2020 - link
"That's in contrast to what a TON of other American companies have done when they create a joint venture to get to the Chinese market, where frequently significant amounts of IP find their way to Chinese companies."what's loads of funny: if you were sentient at the time, yule remember that Nixon and his capitalist handlers lauded 'opening China' as access to their market by American companies. of course, those with any brains knew that China was really opened to provide billions of cheap labor bodies. hasn't changed yet.
back2future - Sunday, March 1, 2020 - link
Chinese production services provide closer and better customer support and customer oriented product development, know customer needs on lower (and middle) income levels (with knowing their own needs) on world wide comparison.Western companies complain about having less demand, but forget their own lack of flexibility and orientation towards customer needs? Give 'em protective duties or all more suitable environmental standards (but that won't be that big problem for future Chinese production also)?
khanikun - Monday, March 2, 2020 - link
China have foundries. SMIC is their biggest one. They're still limited, since all foundries are equipped with the machinery from few companies. Chinese foundries using Chinese machinery are about 15 years behind. They're at like 28 nm or something like that.FreckledTrout - Thursday, February 27, 2020 - link
AMD was given the green light to do this by the DoD and DoC. Seriously, read the article first comment second.peevee - Thursday, February 27, 2020 - link
The convoluted scheme with AMD's part ownership of the Chinese companies looks like was specifically invented to prevent regulators from recognizing what was really happening.itsmydamnation - Thursday, February 27, 2020 - link
thats not even remotely a complex company structure, you want to see an actual complex company structure try the old CVC (F1) strcture. https://joesaward.wordpress.com/2011/05/03/news-co...