OPPO's Reno3 5G vs Reno3 Pro vs Reno3 Pro 5G: Why Don't We See More MediaTek Dimensity 1000 Phones?
by Andrei Frumusanu on August 10, 2020 10:00 AM ESTGPU Performance
GPU performance between the different devices isn’t something that you’d be able to guess just by looking at the specification sheets. On MediaTek’s side, whilst the chip in theory has 9 physical GPU cores, in this lower-binned chip variant we only see 7 of them active, at around 700MHz.
Qualcomm’s Adreno 620 is quite slower than what you’d expect from the SoC, as we saw the LG Velvet posting performance results that generally were 2.5x slower than the latest Snapdragon 865 flagship SoC.
Throughout the results, the hierarchy is quite clear, with the MediaTek D1000L chipset notably outperforming the Snapdragon 765 by up to considerable margins of up to around 50%. Both phones are doing this whilst being extremely conservative with their power usages, not exceeding 2.5-3W, and thus never getting into any thermal stress situations where they would require to throttle.
The international Reno3 devices here are really getting shafted – only posting a fraction of the performance of their Chinese counterparts. These are quite terrible results for the Imagination GPU, and in hindsight, makes their claim of a 2.5x performance increase with the new A-Series GPU look a lot less impressive – but that’s a discussion to be addressed once we actually see silicon designs with the new IP.
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Fritzkier - Thursday, August 13, 2020 - link
Realme X was already discontinued since months ago.Realme releases phones like someone with diarrhea, and only produce it for 6 months at most. Even here, where Realme ranks 4th of smartphone market share, Realme X is nowhere to found.
PeachNCream - Tuesday, August 11, 2020 - link
It would be nice to see more non-Qualcomm phone SoCs out there. In particular just because of the recent Qualcomm DSP vulnerabilities that may never get patched on poorly or not updated phones. Qualcomm has released fixes, but we know all too well how bad things are in a world of disposable handsets.https://www.computerweekly.com/news/252487274/Qual...
Other SoC options may somewhat help prevent these from getting too widespread. Then again, some form of better update deployment would help a lot more and I'm not sure that will ever happen because it probably needs to be done by Google and be baked into Android rather than the fragmented manner its left in now and that has all sorts of implications plus logistical considerations akin to and potentially worse than those that Microsoft faces with PC patches.
TheinsanegamerN - Tuesday, August 11, 2020 - link
You REALLY think that a chinese mediatek chip is going to be more secure then a qualcomm chip? How many vulnerabilities on Mediatek chips have either not been disclosed or never found in the first place because they dont care about older chips?Android security is also not the big scary monster man people make it out to be. Android is relatively locked down in terms of installing software compared to a PC. 99% of android problems are misbehaving facebook installations or people not understanding how to empty their storage correctly.
PeachNCream - Tuesday, August 11, 2020 - link
Sorry, I'm not getting into the anti China racism rhetoric with you. We see enough of that from Duck Trampoline's press briefings.Fritzkier - Thursday, August 13, 2020 - link
He mention that Mediatek are Chinese. Apparently he don't know the difference between Taiwan and Mainland China.NitinYadav251096 - Tuesday, August 11, 2020 - link
I agree with you. But it's time now to bring the MediaTek 5G chipsets in the Indian market and they can do quite well.TheinsanegamerN - Tuesday, August 11, 2020 - link
"Why dont we see more Mediatek"? Well two reasons.1.) Mediatek phones do not support CDMA, so they are a no go in the USA.
2.) Mediatek has a well earned reputation for producing some unspeakably horiffic chipsets. 'unable to run correctly at stock speeds' level terrible. Most brands tend to avoid cheap garbage. Even if Mediatek has straightened out their designs, it will take years before companies trust them enough to use their chips in any halfway expensive phones.
Andrei Frumusanu - Tuesday, August 11, 2020 - link
1) They support CDMA and have had for years.https://www.mediatek.com/news-events/press-release...
https://www.mediatek.com/news-events/press-release...
2) I haven't seen evidence of this. The only times they had issues is when everybody else had issues as well (20nm, so on).
patel21 - Tuesday, August 11, 2020 - link
Combination of Huawei Phones with Mediatek Chipsets is indeed a Synergetic relationship that could give Qualcomm the competition it needs by making Mediatek relevant again.Quantumz0d - Tuesday, August 11, 2020 - link
GNU GPL v2 violator, these phones do not get proper updates and use that Chinese OSes on top. OnePlus had a breach again in 2020 for loss of customer data. Cannot run a Custom ROM on these devices.This MediaTek is trash since start and It has to stay like that unless they open up.