CPU Performance

The original Note I played with was based on Qualcomm’s APQ8060 platform with MDM9200 baseband (the so-called Fusion 2 platform) and was for its time a pretty awesome piece of kit, combining LTE and a dual core SoC. The Note 2 I played with next was based on Samsung’s own Exynos 4412 SoC with quad core Cortex A9 at 1.6 GHz and Mali–400MP4 GPU. For the Note 3, I’m looking at a T-Mobile variant (SM-N900T if you want to be exact about it) which means it includes a Snapdragon 800 SoC, and Samsung has gone for the 2.3 GHz bin (really 2.265 GHz rounded up). Inside are 4 Krait 400 CPUs running at up to 2.3 GHz, and Adreno 330 graphics at up to 450 MHz, all built on TSMC’s 28nm HPM HK-MG process.

I should note that this is MSM8974 and not MSM8974AB which oddly enough one of Qualcomm’s customers already announced (Xiaomi for the Mi3) which boosts GPU clocks up to 550 MHz and the LPDDR3 memory interface up to 933 MHz, among a few other changes. I’ve confirmed that GPU clocks on the Note 3 are indeed maxing out at 450 MHz, and quite honestly it’s a bit early for 8974AB in the first place, though it wouldn’t surprise me to see Samsung eventually get that faster bin at some point and put it in something.

 

I should mention that the Note 3 (like many other Android devices - SGS4, HTC One) detects certain benchmarks and ensures CPU frequencies are running at max while running them, rather than relying on the benchmark workload to organically drive DVFS to those frequencies. Max supported CPU frequency is never exceeded in this process, the platform simply primes itself for running those tests as soon as they're detected. The impact is likely small since most of these tests should drive CPU frequencies to their max state regardless (at least on the CPU side), but I'm going to make it a point to call out this behavior whenever I see it from now on. Make no mistake, this is cheating plain and simple. It's a stupid cheat that most Android OEMs seem to be ok with and honestly isn't worth the effort. Update: Of our CPU tests only AndEBench is affected exclusively by Samsung's optimizations, the performance gain appears to be around 4%. Vellamo is gamed by all of the Snapdragon 800 platforms we have here (ASUS, LG and Samsung). None of this is ok and we want it to stop, but I'm assuming it's not going to. In light of that we're working with all of the benchmark vendors we use to detect and disable any cheats as we find them. We have renamed versions of nearly all of our benchmarks and will have uniquely named versions of all future benchmarks we use. We'll be repopulating our Bench data where appropriate.

CPU performance is honestly excellent. The Galaxy Note 3 is more or less the fastest Android smartphone we've tested up to this point. In the situations where we can do cross platform (OS/browser) comparisons, it isn't quite as fast as the iPhone 5s but in some cases it comes close.

AndEBench - Java

AndEBench - Native

SunSpider Javascript Benchmark 1.0 - Stock Browser

Google Octane Benchmark v1

Mozilla Kraken Benchmark - 1.1

Browsermark 2.0

Vellamo Benchmark - 2.0

Vellamo Benchmark - 2.0

GPU Performance

Samsung definitely likes to win, and the Galaxy Note 3 walks away with the GPU performance crown in literally every single offscreen test we've got here. The onscreen tests are obviously governed by display resolution, but all things being equal the Note 3 manages to get the edge over the PowerVR G6430 in Apple's iPhone 5s. It's also interesting to note that the Galaxy Note 3 appears to outperform all other Snapdragon 800 smartphones we've tested thus far. There's a couple of potential explanations here. First, the Galaxy Note 3 is using newer drivers than any of the other S800 platforms we've tested:

Note 3: 04.03.00.125.077
Padfone: 04.02.02.050.116
G2: 4.02.02.050.141

Secondly, it's unclear how much the manual CPU DVFS setting upon benchmark launch is influencing things - although I suspect it's significant in the case of something like 3DMark. 

Finally each manufacturer has the ability to define their own thermal limits/governor behavior, it could simply be that Samsung is a bit more aggressive on this front. We honestly haven't had enough time to dig into finding out exactly what's going on here (Samsung gave us less than a week to review 3 devices), but the end result are some incredibly quick scores for the Note 3. If I had to guess I'd assume it's actually a combination of all three vectors: drivers, high CPU frequencies and being more lenient with thermals.

Update: GFXBench 2.7 isn't affected by any optimizations here, but Basemark X and 3DMark are. We expect the Note 3's performance is inflated by somewhere in the 3 - 10% range. We're working on neutralizing this optimization across our entire suite.

GLBenchmark 2.7 - T-Rex HD

GLBenchmark 2.7 - T-Rex HD (Offscreen 1080p)

GLBenchmark 2.7 - Egypt HD

GLBenchmark 2.7 - Egypt HD (Offscreen 1080p)

3DMark Unlimited - Ice Storm

Basemark X - On Screen

Basemark X - Off Screen

Epic Citadel - Ultra High Quality, 100% Resolution

NAND & USB 3.0 Performance

Our Galaxy Note 3 review sample posted some incredible storage performance results, at least compared to all other Android smartphones we've tested. Sequential read and write performance are both class leading - the latter is nearly 2x better than the next fastest phone we've tested. Random read performance is decent, but it's random write performance that's surprising. Unlike the Moto X, the Galaxy Note 3 doesn't rely on a flash-friendly file system to get great random write performance - this is raw eMMC horsepower (if you can call ~600 IOPS that). The result isn't quite as good as what you get out of the Moto X, but it comes very close. Android 4.3 should bring FSTRIM support to the Galaxy Note 3, so as long as you remember to leave around 20% of your storage as free space you should enjoy relatively speedy IO regardless of what you do to the phone.

Sequential Read (256KB) Performance

Sequential Write (256KB) Performance

 

Random Read (4KB) Performance

Random Write (4KB) Performance

The Galaxy Note 3 ships with USB 3.0, unfortunately at least in its current state it doesn't seem to get any benefit from the interface. Although the internal eMMC is capable of being read from at ~100MB/s, sustained transfers from the device over adb averaged around 30MB/s regardless of whether or not I connected the Note 3 to a USB 2.0 or 3.0 host.

Update: USB 3.0 does work on the Note 3, but only when connected to a Windows PC with USB 3.0. Doing so brings up a new option in the "USB Computer Connection" picker with USB 3.0 as an option. Ticking this alerts you that using USB 3.0 might interfere with calls and data, but then switches over. Connection transfer speed is indeed faster in this mode as well, like you'd expect.

 

It only appears on Windows as well, my earlier attempts were on OS X where this popup option never appears. 

Battery Life & Charge Time Display
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  • ddriver - Tuesday, October 1, 2013 - link

    No, samsung want to shun the "gray market" resellers. This is a move against them, but I doubt they will have a hard time, considering all they need to do is insert a local sim to activate the phone, so don't worry, you will most likely be able to get your note 3 from a gray market if you want it that badly.

    I don't think traveling abroad to get a phone is common practice, if anything, you won't save any money. Why traveling abroad to get something you can get at your local store?
  • Spunjji - Tuesday, October 8, 2013 - link

    Squuiid doesn't like facts.
  • TrevorH - Tuesday, October 1, 2013 - link

    Did you read the article I linked to, the one that says "clear as mud" where they tested this claim about inserting a native-region sim and found that it was still impossible to use it with one from another region afterwards.
  • ddriver - Tuesday, October 1, 2013 - link

    Maybe a bug that needs fixing. Samsung made their intent perfectly clear. Plus they are not really in the position to afford such a scheme.
  • djboxbaba - Tuesday, October 1, 2013 - link

    The guy has zero sense of objectivity, I wouldn't bother offering him any tested claims.
  • Ph0b0s - Tuesday, October 1, 2013 - link

    I think all the people on this thread would disagree: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?s=5...

    These are reports from people who have brought unlocked Note 3's, used a local sim to activate and make calls for a few days and then had problems when traveling abroad.

    So no the region lock still is a big issue, even with Samsung's denial. Also see the responses from Samsung that have been all over the place as to what customer should expect. They deserve the sales hit, as this is a fiasco, coming to older devices via the 4.3 update in the near future....
  • ddriver - Tuesday, October 1, 2013 - link

    Your link is broken. At any rate, I'd abstain from spreading FUD if I were you (unless you are guided by brand loyalty to a particular rotten fruit) - the matter will become clear in a few days.
  • bubblesmoney - Tuesday, October 1, 2013 - link

    not everyone who criticises this region block is an iOS fan. all my devices are android and several are samsung. stop accusing others of brand loyalty to a rotten fruit. Let anyone use any device that suits them, i prefer my android but i hate the new region lock feature in the note 3 which is coming to all existing note2, s3, s4, mini devices in kitkat update retroactively screwing all existing customers of samsung devices like me. I have the note and an s4 and was about to buy the note 3 till i heard about the region locking.

    i have posted most of the relavant links in my comments on the trusted reviews article http://www.trustedreviews.com/opinions/galaxy-note... so wont bother reposting them again and will instead link that article where you can see my comments which link to youtube video proof, various users spread around the world commenting about region locks on their phones on xda and some links to the mcc lists on Eu and middle east versions of the phones.

    also see amazon reviews where i have posted links to the region lock photos of the usa, eu and middle east versions among many other things. please see the comments too where i have posted extracts of many users who are affected commenting on xda. http://www.amazon.co.uk/review/R1JZ99ICG57AY3/ref=...
  • ddriver - Tuesday, October 1, 2013 - link

    Not everyone, but what about one with such dedication as yours? To me it seems that you actually hope the issue is real and are eager for samsung to suffer consequences. As I said, the issue will be cleared the following days, don't forget the note 3 is a brand new product, and as such might come with immature software and potential bugs. It's not like the 5s software was perfect at launch too, there was the lock bypass bug, which is pretty serious flaw, easily eclipsing a regional lock bug in some cases. Software updates fix this, the same applies to an eventual regional lock bug.

    Maybe the issue is real, I am not claiming it is not, if you were under similar impression. If so, I guess people who do a lot of travel and talk won't be getting that particular phone. But again, I don't think samsung is in the position to make such moves.
  • bubblesmoney - Tuesday, October 1, 2013 - link

    they are the biggest seller of android phones by a large margin and have a commanding presence to be able to make deals with networks as to who gets on the mcc blacklist and who does not, guess based on how much back handers they get from the networks for forcings its users to use that networks roaming charges instead of local sims. its only a matter of time samsung gets screwed by the regulators everywhere for colluding in managing the roaming preferences in this manner. even more irritating as i cant get kitkat update unless i accept the region lock applied by samsung. see pocketnow report about that. yes i am pissed off that my present s4 and note will get region lock reducing its resale value. I was planning on selling one of them to get the note3. hence me being pissed off as i am directly affected. I would like all my sim free fully paid for phones to work anywhere in the world when i visit my family in the usa, asia and not be gimped by samsung. yes the issue is real and i just want more publicity so that samsung is forced to retract from this anti consumer policy of region locking new phones and also region locking old phones already sold with new software updates. read the T&C of any new software update from samsung carefully from now on

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