Display Measurement - Typical LG

We mentioned that we have a high suspicion that the V60 and Velvet screen panels are identical, even though there’s a different shape cover glass over both. One further difference between the two phones is their software calibration. The V60 comes with LG’s classic wide range of display profiles (Auto, Cinema, Sports, Game, Photos, Web, Expert) that we’ve seen introduced over the last few years, whilst the Velvet has more significantly simplified things down to only three presents as a custom option (Natural, Vivid, Cinema, Custom).

For the V60, LG’s most accurate preset which actually targets an sRGB gamut is the “Web” profile and that’s what we tested here today. On the Velvet, it unfortunately looks like LG dumbed things down a little too much, as the phone no longer has any profile that’s able to target an sRGB gamut, with all of the available presets targeting some larger colour spaces. We’ve left it on the “Natural” mode as it gave a good enough white-point out of the box.

We move on to the display calibration and fundamental display measurements of the V60 and Velvet screens. As always, we thank X-Rite and SpecraCal, as our measurements are performed with an X-Rite i1Pro 2 spectrophotometer, with the exception of black levels which are measured with an i1Display Pro colorimeter. Data is collected and examined using Portrait Display's CalMAN software.

Display Measurement - Maximum Brightness

In terms of brightness, the new LG panels here don’t fare all too well in terms of their maximum brightness. In manual mode, both phones do get brighter than what we typical see of Android OLED devices at around 485 cd/m², but the auto mode under bright environments doesn’t raise this figure much at all, only reaching 525-550 cd/m² on both phones. The auto mode does change the colours and improves contrast for legibility, but can’t really compete with the newer generation Samsung AMOLED panels in terms of brightness.


Portrait Displays CalMAN
LG V60

Moving on onto greyscale testing, the LG V60 has some large problems in terms of properly tracking a correct gamma curve. The mid-levels are far too dark, beyond reasonable error rates. The good news is that the colour balance and temperature on the phone is quite good and reaching whites and average colour temperatures of 6600K – a little bit cooler over the 6500K natural sunlight white target, but I prefer this to say Samsung’s usual too warm colour tones.


Portrait Displays CalMAN
LG Velvet

The LG Velvet’s greyscale results also have issues with the gamma tracking, but this time around it’s on the upper levels where it’s showcasing too low gamma, resulting in tones being brighter than they should be. The Natural colour profile here is also more noticeably cooler, with an average colour temperature of 6945K. It’s possible to fine-tune the colour temperature in the custom settings to alleviate this if it’s a bother.

Portrait Displays CalMAN

In the saturations against an sRGB gamut, we see the LG V60 fare quite well when it comes to just the colours themselves. The phone’s biggest issue here is the aforementioned handling of the gamma, resulting in the tones being far too dark.

 

Portrait Displays CalMAN

On the Velvet, as the phone doesn’t actually have a native accurate sRGB mode, it means that all the targets here are way off mark as the “Natural” gamut doesn’t correspond to any particular colour space. This also isn’t a P3 target as the blue hue is significantly different in hue – I don’t know precisely what LG is targeting here if they’re even targeting any standard at all.

Portrait Displays CalMAN

In the GMB test with common test tones and colours, the V60 falls flat on its face as the results are outright disastrous. This isn’t too much of a surprise as LG has a long history of making a complete mess of their display colour calibrations in their phones, and the V60 is unfortunately just a continuation of that tradition.

Portrait Displays CalMAN

The Velvet, oddly enough, actually fares quite well in the GMB test even though it really shouldn’t be given its non-sRGB gamut. The biggest noticeable difference in the comparison palette is that many of the patches are brighter than they should be, which again points out to the lower than should-be gamut calibration.

Overall, both phones are very clearly LG phones and their colour calibrations are amongst the worst in the market right now. The V60 in particular has just atrocious results given that this was supposed to be an accurate “Web” profile targeting the sRGB space. It’s really unfortunate what the company did here, but after so many years of seeing repeated disaster after disaster, I’ve just come to accept that LG phones simply won’t ever have accurate colours, as sad as that sounds.

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  • rocketman122 - Wednesday, July 15, 2020 - link

    "The Snapdragon 765"

    nope youre out. I had the g4. bootloop. now im using a v20. only because the battery swapping is awesome. shame they didnt continue with that. the rear camera glass is crap and cracks nonstop. this one reviewed will is also looking like it will break.

    shame. next phone....ta da asus rog 2. im done with LG.
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  • Xex360 - Wednesday, July 15, 2020 - link

    They made really interesting phones like the V20, now it's all garbage they look all like copies of cheap Chinese phones, to be fair it's the case of almost all phones now, less features and ugly screens, what we used to call dead pixels is now acceptable, people seem to be blind sheep now... Reply
  • flyingpants265 - Wednesday, July 15, 2020 - link

    It's just like the netbook phenomenon, they're making low-spec versions that LOOK like flagship phones, but selling them for full price!....and in this case "at zero dollars" when you purchase with a contract. So you're on the hook for $500 for a brand new crappy budget LG/Samsung phone with 3GB RAM specifically created for suckers like you.

    Yes consumers are really dumb, but review sites are the real guilty party.

    Nobody should have stood for $999-1400 phones, as consumers we make the economy turn, demand cheap $140 phones like the Realme X which isn't sold in the west, instead Oppo pushes their Reno/OnePlus for $500-1000 even though it's literally almost the exact same thing.

    Or $299 like the Nexus 5 or OnePlus 1.

    If the phone is $999+ it better be amazing and have a 5 year warranty at minimum.
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  • Quantumz0d - Thursday, July 16, 2020 - link

    Exactly. Apple dictates everything now, whatever they do gets free pass. A dead pixel zone for 3 years+ people are fine with that bullshit. And removal of I/O is also great, in computers like Macs, Soldered trash, Surface Book whatever that abomination is again lacking 3.5mm jack.

    Apple's democracy ruined the tech market, $200 earphones which are throwable after 1-2 years max same like a smartphone. What a bunch of bullshit.
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  • Dave_S - Sunday, August 2, 2020 - link

    I still have the V10 and use the V20. Love both phones, hate the company that made em. Both those phones have a feature set that you cannot find in any other mobile except maybe the Chinese brands (that no one in the west wants a part of). QAD DAC, Removable batteries, 3.5mm Jack, IR Blaster, 2nd always-on-display, FM Radio, True Dual-sim+SD, rugged non-glass back, easily repairable. All great features that if a phone manufacturer reproduced today with upgrades to Processor, RAM, cooling, and display would be a Samsung killer for sure. But LG being such a dysfunctional company would find it impossible to pull off. Reply
  • flyingpants265 - Wednesday, July 15, 2020 - link

    Just hijacking this comment to laugh at LG.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

    SNAPDRAGON 765 FOR $599 or whatever insane price... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

    Try like $149!
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  • Fulljack - Wednesday, July 22, 2020 - link

    cheapest SD765 is Redmi K30 5G at $220

    how you come up with arbitrary $149 baffles me
    Reply
  • AdhesiveTeflon - Thursday, July 16, 2020 - link

    Yep I suffered 2 G4s with the boot loop, and my current G6's camera lens is broken (although it was -20F outside and in my pocket. I'm on the "never again" train too. Reply
  • hanselltc - Wednesday, July 15, 2020 - link

    Just from the spec sheet alone, this already looks kinda disappointing. Good to see the battery gets better, but it took a 1080p60hz panel and a 5000Mah battery. V60 will remain one of the top choices for those wanting a headphone jack, but otherwise I don't see any reason to buy this over say an Oneplus. They *really* need to ditch LG displays. Reply
  • TheinsanegamerN - Wednesday, July 15, 2020 - link

    So other then great battery life and a headphone jack, you cant think why someone would want one of these over a oneplus.

    Seems like you have found two great reasons right there. And honestly, 1080p isnt enough on a sub 7" screen? I can barely tell the difference between 720p and 1080p at this size, let alone 1440p or higher. Just a ton of useless pixels you wont see 99% of the time draining the battery, which you WILL notice 99% of the time.
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