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  • Donkey2008 - Friday, March 18, 2016 - link

    Hopefully they get these features ironed out in time for Windows 10 to ship his Fall. It is the default OS browser now, so it should be working as intended before it is used by the mainstream public.

    (~sarcasm)
  • Snake_Doc - Friday, March 18, 2016 - link

    It's downright embarrassing that you can't include periods in a search query, without Edge thinking it's a url. Seems like something a junior compsci student could figure out.
  • althaz - Friday, March 18, 2016 - link

    lol, I was not aware that this was a thing. I guess it shows how little I use Edge. Which is to say I've not used it since Win 10 was actually released, aside from testing things in it.
  • Pissedoffyouth - Tuesday, March 22, 2016 - link

    like firefox?
  • Alexvrb - Friday, March 18, 2016 - link

    "The Unpleaseables" in theaters nationwide 2016.
  • JoeyJoJo123 - Friday, March 18, 2016 - link

    "Microsoft Apologists and Damage Control" in theaters now.
  • Alexvrb - Saturday, March 19, 2016 - link

    No no, you're absolutely right. They shouldn't improve anything. Improving software and adding features only leads to bitching by people on the internet that they should have had these features out sooner! BRILLIANT!
  • Donkey2008 - Saturday, March 19, 2016 - link

    If you bought a car today and it did not have air conditioning, but the manufacturer says it will be added at a "later date" would you take that manufacturer seriously? If they deprecated the old model, which wasn't great but at least had air conditioning, and made the new model the default would you still take them seriously?

    I understand that ALL software is in relatively constant beta (and EA games never leave beta) but at least ship something that is reasonably on par with either your competition or the old model. Windows 10 shipped last July as a completed product. Edge is advertised as an important selling point of the new OS to the level that MS hid IE11 and made Edge the default browser. I personally find that incompetent.
  • Alexvrb - Saturday, March 19, 2016 - link

    Oh man you're so right it's blowing my mind. It's exactly like a car where they have to install a compressor, evaporator, condenser, A/C lines, etc at great cost fleetwide. Perfect analogy. Genius level. Just like current web-centric in-development software where new features are never added even though they actually are all the time. I mean take another browser like Chrome. They never add new features to that right?

    Well, OK, you got me. MS actually did add these features that they said were coming, but let's not confuse anyone with the facts. Really I think instead they should have done nothing to make you happy. Plus it was so hard to find IE or install another browser if you found Edge lacking. Especially for advanced users that know what extensions are or why you'd want them. Personally I like Firefox as a secondary browser. But you know those darn extension-using guys... almost none of them know how to download a browser or click on things.
  • Donkey2008 - Sunday, March 20, 2016 - link

    Do you work for Microsoft? I am not asking to be sarcastic, but you seem very emotional and take this criticism very personally.
  • close - Monday, March 21, 2016 - link

    An update for a car is usually an expensive recall. An update for your software is just a click away. Maybe a reboot. Do you have any idea how many new features service packs brought for XP over the years? Things that were supposed to be there from the start. And in case you're wondering MacOS is in the same situation - adding features with updates, fixing things that were promised but didn't work.

    Also, too keep up with your analogy, I *never* got a free car to go along with my old one. And nobody is forcing you to use Windows 10 now, you can wait until it's fully baked and buy it then ;).
    Just because you don't like MS or Windows it's no reason to act like a mule.
  • Alexvrb - Monday, March 21, 2016 - link

    Not even close. Heck I used to be critical of MS back in the 9x days and early XP (pre-SP1) days. But that was a long time ago, and quite a few people are still quite heavy-handed when they critique MS while they give a pass to other companies. In particular when I see posts that blow my mind I get sarcastic. It probably stems from the fact that there are many haters that literally find something to complain about no matter what MS does. If they do nothing, they complain. If they fix the problem, they complain.
  • damianrobertjones - Friday, March 18, 2016 - link

    Isn't Android a constant Beta?
  • thetuna - Friday, March 18, 2016 - link

    Adblock, finally!
    Now I might actually use edge more than accidentally.
  • damianrobertjones - Friday, March 18, 2016 - link

    Hosts file... protect all browsers
  • nathanddrews - Friday, March 18, 2016 - link

    ... and mark it "read only"... then check it periodically. I've had Windows 10 circumvent my hosts file and replace it with a new one on more than one occasion. Eventually not even the hosts file will be effective.
  • damianrobertjones - Friday, March 18, 2016 - link

    Windows 10 shouldn't do that and it hasn't for me at least. I have UAC at the max so you need double permission to write.
  • Gothmoth - Friday, March 18, 2016 - link

    host file ignores IP´s.. it is only usefull for mapping URL too IP´s.

    only morons think the hostfile is a safe approach.
  • hakime - Friday, March 18, 2016 - link

    "Additionally, Edge is also adding support for Pinned Tabs, which keep tabs always open and on the very left of the tab bar whenever the browser is opened"

    Well nice Safari ripoff off, great Microsoft innovation. The author should at least have mentioned where Microsoft took the feature from, instead of making it sound as a novel idea.
  • Duckeenie - Friday, March 18, 2016 - link

    Are you a corporate body? Because consumers generally want to see their favourite features implemented regardless of who owns the patent.

    In addition, and I'm open to correction on this, but Safari being based on Webkit makes it likely that Apple didn't invent pinned tabs either.
  • althaz - Friday, March 18, 2016 - link

    Webkit is Apple's baby, so if it comes from webkit, it's highly likely that it's Apple's thing - but also very possibly it's Google's thing as they were a major contributor for quite some time.

    However, this is a browser feature and has *absolutely nothing* to do with webkit - a rendering engine. Also, Firefox has had pinned tabs via extensions since about 2004 and added it at least five years ago to their core features.

    Moreover, this article says it's about time Edge got these features (although I never use pinned tabs, so who cares about that), implying they are old, not new and innovative.
  • inighthawki - Friday, March 18, 2016 - link

    Sorry dude, Firefox has literally had pinned tabs since Firefox 5.0 (App tabs). Safari is a few years late to the game. Nice try, though.

    Also, nowhere in the article did the author or Microsoft ever imply that this was a new or innovative feature that hasn't been done before.
  • Michael Bay - Friday, March 18, 2016 - link

    >b-but muh safari

    Cheer up, now this feature at least will be used by actual humans!
  • Valantar - Friday, March 18, 2016 - link

    Considering that the implementation is identical to Chrome, that would be odd. (Not to mention that I'm pretty sure Opera had this years ago when I was still using it.) If Safari and Chrome both share a certain design feature, it's pretty safe to accept it as an industry design standard, or at least a freely available design. That'd be like calling the third company to make four wheeled gas-powered automobiles a Benz ripoff simply for having four wheels and a gas engine.
  • bountygiver - Sunday, March 20, 2016 - link

    there are way too many features that opera had first but never got credit for them.
  • Solidstate89 - Friday, March 18, 2016 - link

    Are you the same idiot from Ars who made the same stupid comment? Because Chrome, Opera and Firefox have had pinned tabs for years before Safari had them.

    Oh hey, I just checked. You are the same idiot!
  • Tams80 - Friday, March 18, 2016 - link

    I wouldn't be surprised if Opera was the first browser to have pinned tabs. Firefox definitely had them before Safari.

    Anyway, just because one thing as a feature, it does not mean nothing else can. That would be terrible and we'd not get anywhere near the amount of useful and interesting products we do now.

    In short: take your fanboy/girl attitude somewhere else.
  • Alexvrb - Saturday, March 19, 2016 - link

    No you're wrong! Once one piece of software implements a feature, nobody else is allowed to add it. :P

    Also, even though Microsoft and Anandtech did not tout this as a new feature, you should attack them for not being the first, and harass them for being late. Instead you should insist that they do nothing and then whine about them lacking features. That's the true spirit of the interwebs!
  • Murloc - Sunday, March 20, 2016 - link

    hurp well nice Grog Carts ripoff off, great Tesla innovation. The author should at least have mentioned where Musk took idea of putting wheels on his cars from.
  • Danvelopment - Sunday, March 20, 2016 - link

    You mean like Apple does?
  • Gothmoth - Friday, March 18, 2016 - link

    FAVORITES... FAVORITES microsoft.

    the handling of FAVORITES is a joke in EDGE.

    no way i use EDGE when it can´t handle FAVORITES better.
  • SpartanJet - Friday, March 18, 2016 - link

    It handles favorites fine? I mean its not horrific like that ad companies spyware browser which makes you have a huge horizontal bar for favorites that takes up waaaay too much screen space compared to a nice favorites drop down menu like in firefox.
  • Gothmoth - Friday, March 18, 2016 - link

    it can not even sort them in a convenient way.
    and i don´t even start to talk about favorite management.

    it´s like using a browser from 15 years ago.
  • Donkey2008 - Saturday, March 19, 2016 - link

    Amen brother. One of the things IE did great was handle favorites. It was incredibly simple (a folder with shortcuts) but worked fine. In Edge it is simply frustrating trying to organize them.
  • Houdani - Friday, March 18, 2016 - link

    Complete agreement here. Wrestling with their favorites manager was my first experience with Edge (after importing from another browser) and it left a very bad taste in the mouth.

    Drag, drop, rearrange, rename, browse nested folders. All of these were rubbish. Not to mention the double/triple spacing for every menu & list. Major waste of space for mouse users.

    They have to make a concerted effort to improve the user experience before I consider using it again.
  • Valantar - Friday, March 18, 2016 - link

    With Lastpass support, I can finally give this a go. That's good, as I've been looking forward to testing Edge for myself. Looks pretty good otherwise, although cross-device sync needs to work properly.
  • jasonelmore - Friday, March 18, 2016 - link

    Ad Block here i come!
  • xdesire - Friday, March 18, 2016 - link

    so it took the almighty MS a whole year to implement pin tab, paste and go and "some" extensions to their browser? so at this rate, they'll manage to reach chrome level like in 5 more years...
  • stephenbrooks - Friday, March 18, 2016 - link

    Yes, they lost a lot of ground in features with this "rewrite" or "reboot" of IE. Although IE was always about 5 years behind the cutting edge browsers on features anyway. That's not necessarily a bad thing: I don't like using browsers that are constantly meddling with their UI and feature set, I'd rather only have the well-tested stuff.
  • Donkey2008 - Saturday, March 19, 2016 - link

    That is why most Enterprise still sticks with IE for things like Oracle or Citrix compatibility. It is a browser. It needs to display websites securely. That's it. As long as it has a basic feature set it will work fine for 99.9% of people.

    That said, I like Chrome because it is faster then IE by a longshot (that is without pre-fetch enabled) and it never locks up like IE seems to do on every other website, but I never really understood why browser choice is such a big deal for some users, as if their browser choice determined the kind of person they are. At the companies I work with it is ALWAYS Android/Google/Chrome users who have to make a big drama out of having to use IE on their work computers.
  • inighthawki - Saturday, March 19, 2016 - link

    When you start from scratch you kinda have to start somewhere. I'm guessing pinned tabs was not the top of the priority list. It's not like it took the dev team a full year's worth of development time to implement it.
  • mkozakewich - Saturday, March 19, 2016 - link

    I'm still waiting for full-screen. I basically always browse full-screen, so it's a useless browser for me until then.
  • Danvelopment - Sunday, March 20, 2016 - link

    Silverlight (config manager without having to buy Intune)?

    The IE11 button that reopens closed tabs and last session (saved my arse many times).

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