Replacing a PSU in a Mac Mini is exponentially more expensive and time consuming than replacing an ePSU. That's why you rarely see integrated PSU's in USFF enterprise PC's.
I'm a big fan of integrated PSU's, especially on monitors (anecdotally, and quite contradictory to my previous statement, MONITORS with integrated PSU's are generally better quality) where you have less clutter. And when an internal PSU fails on a monitor, which is incredibly rare - but not unheard of, generally you would just swap the monitor out...not a luxury on a $1000-$2000 workstation.
If my Hades Canyon NUC can fit dual M.2, Thunderbolt 3, and HDMI ports, I feel something like this, targeting the 'pro' segment, and double the volume, should also offer those. And who wants a Xeon system crippled with a SATA drive? Put a U.2 in there an ship it with a 2.5" Intel 900p! Also, I like my NUC, cuz it's actually quite a bit smaller than a laptop to haul around (I have docks at home/work), but this thing? You might as well just get a Thinkpad P50.
That's HP, don't expect logic from them. I bought an M.2 SSD laptop model and when I wanted to stick an additional sata drive in, I discovered there's no cable and bracket inside. They simply don't deliver those with M.2 models. When inquiring about the parts, I got quoted 80 euro for both, I gave up and bought a USB 3 external case for 10 euro.
Unfortunately, location of MXM isn't obvious at the photo.
Would be interesting to compare this brick with Lenovo P320 Tiny (P330 Tiny would be better, but isn't announced yet). That one, despite much smaller size, contains a normal PCIe x16 slot. But Quadro is compatible with 35W CPUs and is mutually excludive with 2.5".
As it's a workstation, you probably mean the Ryzen Pro? Personally, I'd like to see an Epyc in there... 32c/64t in something the size of a large book. That would be... interesting.
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guidryp - Friday, July 20, 2018 - link
Nice SFF.How about a version with Regular CPU and GTX 1060 instead of expensive "Pro" parts.
zeusk - Friday, July 20, 2018 - link
Get the entry level model and buy your own MXM card?Valantar - Saturday, July 21, 2018 - link
If only those were affordable and easily purchased.fazalmajid - Friday, July 20, 2018 - link
Funny how the PR pics never show the power supply brick...Ideally it would be integrated like on the Mac Mini.
Samus - Friday, July 20, 2018 - link
Replacing a PSU in a Mac Mini is exponentially more expensive and time consuming than replacing an ePSU. That's why you rarely see integrated PSU's in USFF enterprise PC's.I'm a big fan of integrated PSU's, especially on monitors (anecdotally, and quite contradictory to my previous statement, MONITORS with integrated PSU's are generally better quality) where you have less clutter. And when an internal PSU fails on a monitor, which is incredibly rare - but not unheard of, generally you would just swap the monitor out...not a luxury on a $1000-$2000 workstation.
hubick - Friday, July 20, 2018 - link
If my Hades Canyon NUC can fit dual M.2, Thunderbolt 3, and HDMI ports, I feel something like this, targeting the 'pro' segment, and double the volume, should also offer those. And who wants a Xeon system crippled with a SATA drive? Put a U.2 in there an ship it with a 2.5" Intel 900p! Also, I like my NUC, cuz it's actually quite a bit smaller than a laptop to haul around (I have docks at home/work), but this thing? You might as well just get a Thinkpad P50.haplo602 - Saturday, July 21, 2018 - link
That's HP, don't expect logic from them. I bought an M.2 SSD laptop model and when I wanted to stick an additional sata drive in, I discovered there's no cable and bracket inside. They simply don't deliver those with M.2 models. When inquiring about the parts, I got quoted 80 euro for both, I gave up and bought a USB 3 external case for 10 euro.bolkhov - Friday, July 20, 2018 - link
Unfortunately, location of MXM isn't obvious at the photo.Would be interesting to compare this brick with Lenovo P320 Tiny (P330 Tiny would be better, but isn't announced yet). That one, despite much smaller size, contains a normal PCIe x16 slot. But Quadro is compatible with 35W CPUs and is mutually excludive with 2.5".
BoneHurtingJuice - Friday, July 20, 2018 - link
I read somewhere Intel will lock C246 out of i5/i7s thoughXajel - Sunday, July 22, 2018 - link
Very nice indeed, hopefully we can see more option, mainly Ryzen & Ryzen Embedded.bill.rookard - Monday, July 23, 2018 - link
As it's a workstation, you probably mean the Ryzen Pro? Personally, I'd like to see an Epyc in there... 32c/64t in something the size of a large book. That would be... interesting.