If using RAID 6 in a 6+2 config with modern harddisks that means a maximum theoretical drive speed of around 900 MBps ( 150Mbps x 6 ), assuming the CPU is fast enough for that. So that's probably the absolute limit of the unit on that 10 GbE link.
Max theoretical on 10GbE is 1.25 GB/s, which I would assume you could get close to (1.2 GB/s I'd wager) if you were using 3 SSD's and not spinning drives.
As odd for a press photo but actually a good thing in reality. Any issues like a self assign IP I'd like to be displayed on the LCD screen for trouble shooting.
The 10 GbE situation still bugs me. These kinds of devices make absolutely no sense for anything but attaching it to a server that can't take more drives for some other reason, since server motherboards are the only things that can natively do 10 GbE. Sure, you can get a PCIe expansion card for any computer for $300 that can do 10 GbE but at that point you might as well A) Get a computer case that can fit more drives, and/or B) Add a RAID card with more SATA or SAS ports if you've filled on the ports on your mobo already.
My best guess is that we won't see 10 GbE hit the consumer market until at least two things happen. 1) Wireless access points reach at least 5 Gb/s, and 2) ISPs start offering greater than 1 Gb/s. I don't think ISPs will wait for 10 GbE to get more popular before offering >1 GB/s because the world connects wirelessly these days so if wireless access points start getting even faster, then I think we'll see ISPs like Google coming out with even higher tiers. But we're stuck at 1.3 GB/s right now. Though it would still be nice if the high end 802.11AC routers started coming with 10 GbE ports so that you could actually attach a NAS like this. Could be useful for small businesses that handle large files, like engineers/architects or media creators that like to work collaboratively and have shared storage. Or for consumers that have more money than sense and want to upload that 16GB of photos they just shot on their DSLR to their home storage server in under 20 seconds.
""Or for consumers that have more money than sense and want to upload that 16GB of photos they just shot on their DSLR to their home storage server in under 20 seconds.""
Hmmm what type of CF's or SD Cards are you shooting on?... And how exactly do you connect those to your PC? :P... Sarcasm aside though, pushing for more bandwidth is a more than welcome development... Might not be usable as of now, but with that thinking we would never see progress, someone has to push the boundaries, sometimes it may not be where it makes the most sense either that it happens, but as long as it happens...
10GbE is hardly new stuff though... (as Azethoth also points out)
That's not the only BS in the announcement. "10 GbE capability in off-the-shelf NAS units have most remained in the realm of rackmount models."
Yeah no, I purchased the exact same "10GbE capable" in a ReadyNAS 3 years ago and even then it was neither new nor rackmount and the 10GbE part cost more than the actual system to add to it.
I will be so happy the day that real 10GbE arrives in a consumer acceptable format and price. Meanwhile it looks like stupid fast only comes from thunderbolt and that's single chained from the computer so not exactly a network. Oh yeah, and really only well supported on Mac.
in my recent exploits with 10gbe between two more than capable pcs, I only managed a 2x speed up over 1gbs when copying files. although iperf shows 9.85Gbps. The freebsd box is tweaked to the max, but I guess windows 7 is not up to thr task. perhaps win 2008 may have more luck.
Did it cross your mind that maybe your source and destination drives are maxed out. Most modern SSD's top out at about 300MBps write speeds; barely a 3rd of the available bandwidth of a 10gbps network connection.
Hi, If you have multiple servers or clients needing high-speed access to the NAS, you could get a 1gbps switch with a couple of 10gbps ports, plug this in, and potentially achieve much greater than gbps performance without upgrading any server or client NICs.
It is good solution for photographers or videographers. I work with TS-670 now. It is not with 10G NIC, but whti 2+2 Gbit Ethernet ports. Hope, compatible 10G card arrive soon from ebay. It is around $300 for 2 ports SFP+ 10G card from Intel. 1-2 10Gbit connections could be configured without switch, with direct NAS-workstation connections. If the NAS is close to workstation (up to 5 meters), twinax cables like 10GBase-CU SFP+ could be used. 10G really add speed to photo or video workflow. In my previous project, upgrade from 1G server NIC to 10G Myricom cards increase speed in photo - video browsing and processing in 2-3 times. Not video transcoding (workstation's CPU is limit in this task), but editing like add or remove footage and so on.
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Jeff7181 - Saturday, October 12, 2013 - link
Sounds like they're able to saturate all four 1 Gbps links. I wonder what the speed over 10 GbE is.wavetrex - Saturday, October 12, 2013 - link
If using RAID 6 in a 6+2 config with modern harddisks that means a maximum theoretical drive speed of around 900 MBps ( 150Mbps x 6 ), assuming the CPU is fast enough for that.So that's probably the absolute limit of the unit on that 10 GbE link.
Freakie - Saturday, October 12, 2013 - link
Max theoretical on 10GbE is 1.25 GB/s, which I would assume you could get close to (1.2 GB/s I'd wager) if you were using 3 SSD's and not spinning drives.alyarb - Saturday, October 12, 2013 - link
Why would you want a 169 address on your machine for the press photo?DigitalFreak - Saturday, October 12, 2013 - link
Who cares?Kevin G - Saturday, October 12, 2013 - link
As odd for a press photo but actually a good thing in reality. Any issues like a self assign IP I'd like to be displayed on the LCD screen for trouble shooting.Freakie - Saturday, October 12, 2013 - link
The 10 GbE situation still bugs me. These kinds of devices make absolutely no sense for anything but attaching it to a server that can't take more drives for some other reason, since server motherboards are the only things that can natively do 10 GbE. Sure, you can get a PCIe expansion card for any computer for $300 that can do 10 GbE but at that point you might as well A) Get a computer case that can fit more drives, and/or B) Add a RAID card with more SATA or SAS ports if you've filled on the ports on your mobo already.My best guess is that we won't see 10 GbE hit the consumer market until at least two things happen. 1) Wireless access points reach at least 5 Gb/s, and 2) ISPs start offering greater than 1 Gb/s. I don't think ISPs will wait for 10 GbE to get more popular before offering >1 GB/s because the world connects wirelessly these days so if wireless access points start getting even faster, then I think we'll see ISPs like Google coming out with even higher tiers. But we're stuck at 1.3 GB/s right now. Though it would still be nice if the high end 802.11AC routers started coming with 10 GbE ports so that you could actually attach a NAS like this. Could be useful for small businesses that handle large files, like engineers/architects or media creators that like to work collaboratively and have shared storage. Or for consumers that have more money than sense and want to upload that 16GB of photos they just shot on their DSLR to their home storage server in under 20 seconds.
jmelgaard - Wednesday, November 6, 2013 - link
""Or for consumers that have more money than sense and want to upload that 16GB of photos they just shot on their DSLR to their home storage server in under 20 seconds.""Hmmm what type of CF's or SD Cards are you shooting on?... And how exactly do you connect those to your PC? :P... Sarcasm aside though, pushing for more bandwidth is a more than welcome development... Might not be usable as of now, but with that thinking we would never see progress, someone has to push the boundaries, sometimes it may not be where it makes the most sense either that it happens, but as long as it happens...
10GbE is hardly new stuff though... (as Azethoth also points out)
someone_stupid - Thursday, March 13, 2014 - link
I would like the 10GbE just for the reason I would like to setup the database server on NAS.DanNeely - Saturday, October 12, 2013 - link
Only $629 for the 10GbE upgrade.Azethoth - Sunday, October 13, 2013 - link
That's not the only BS in the announcement. "10 GbE capability in off-the-shelf NAS units have most remained in the realm of rackmount models."Yeah no, I purchased the exact same "10GbE capable" in a ReadyNAS 3 years ago and even then it was neither new nor rackmount and the 10GbE part cost more than the actual system to add to it.
I will be so happy the day that real 10GbE arrives in a consumer acceptable format and price. Meanwhile it looks like stupid fast only comes from thunderbolt and that's single chained from the computer so not exactly a network. Oh yeah, and really only well supported on Mac.
ZPrime - Saturday, October 12, 2013 - link
What is the HDMI port for!?Romulous - Saturday, October 12, 2013 - link
in my recent exploits with 10gbe between two more than capable pcs, I only managed a 2x speed up over 1gbs when copying files. although iperf shows 9.85Gbps. The freebsd box is tweaked to the max, but I guess windows 7 is not up to thr task. perhaps win 2008 may have more luck.Wardrop - Sunday, October 13, 2013 - link
Did it cross your mind that maybe your source and destination drives are maxed out. Most modern SSD's top out at about 300MBps write speeds; barely a 3rd of the available bandwidth of a 10gbps network connection.asakharov - Monday, December 9, 2013 - link
For use the NAS as media player. It supports XBMC.bobbozzo - Monday, October 14, 2013 - link
Hi,If you have multiple servers or clients needing high-speed access to the NAS, you could get a 1gbps switch with a couple of 10gbps ports, plug this in, and potentially achieve much greater than gbps performance without upgrading any server or client NICs.
bobbozzo - Monday, October 14, 2013 - link
This was supposed to be in reply to an earlier comment, but the nested replies don't seem to be nesting correctly.Juddog - Monday, October 14, 2013 - link
It seems like it would be cheaper just to use a newer Thunderbolt port, if the intent is to only plug it into one server.asakharov - Monday, December 9, 2013 - link
It is good solution for photographers or videographers. I work with TS-670 now. It is not with 10G NIC, but whti 2+2 Gbit Ethernet ports. Hope, compatible 10G card arrive soon from ebay. It is around $300 for 2 ports SFP+ 10G card from Intel.1-2 10Gbit connections could be configured without switch, with direct NAS-workstation connections. If the NAS is close to workstation (up to 5 meters), twinax cables like 10GBase-CU SFP+ could be used.
10G really add speed to photo or video workflow. In my previous project, upgrade from 1G server NIC to 10G Myricom cards increase speed in photo - video browsing and processing in 2-3 times. Not video transcoding (workstation's CPU is limit in this task), but editing like add or remove footage and so on.